In an effort to increase players I think its a great concept, if I hadn't purchased a 6mo subscription out of the gate I would not still be playing years later. Eve takes time to wrap your head around and see how the game differs from other MMO's. Having time to train up some basic skills and experience it without hitting your wallet is a good thing for everyone.

*However: As a bitter vet who uses capitals pretty frequently I would love CCP to reconsider the Cyno skill exclusion. Many players like me have 1-2 accounts with nothing but cyno alts to help move their caps around the board.

Read the list in the devblog, will you. Or better, use the browser search and put in "cyno"
You're welcome.
Sheesh.

The only way is that these 30-40 accounts would have to first be subscribed and then reactivated every time you want to use them to cyno. In that case, so what?

Any company needs to make changes to survive. Good or bad, micro transactions have become a normal thing on the gaming market and it is proven to work (most of the time). If that will make the game/product better or not is an other discussion. In the end it's about CCP having a profitable game. Without profit, no EVE.

Alpha can't use cyno.

20 Pages already... I am glad I skipped much of it.


First off; if any devs beat me to answering on any of these thoughts, let me know. Below. I will be watching this thread closely.

First, I saw concerns about Jump Cloning...so I did a search in the article that lists the skills available to the Alpha Clones and guess what is NOT in the list for any of them...INFOMORPH PSYCHOLOGY...

Yes, it is bolded, underlined, and in caps for a good reason. Apparently some of you forgot that skill is needed for Jump Clones AND how to use the Crtl-F function to find on a page a word you are looking for. All I had to type in was Infomorph to find out that it was nowhere in the list. So yeah, Jump Clones are out or the Alphas already.

Now looking through the skills, I am glad to see some limits placed. But some of the limits could be upped to give the Newbro Alphas a chance against some of us with even 8 months of experience and skills in the game.


First, beef up the Armor and Shield Resistance Compensation skills to 3. This will allow them to get more out of their tanking for Shield or Armor.


Second, limit logins for an Alpha to one account on one computer and not on the same email address and IP address. Do not know if there is a way to detect people hiding their IP address. Any attempt to login that character from another computer should be met with an alert or suspension to prevent multiboxing or throwaway Ganking fleets. Yes, this applies to people who have Omega Accounts as well.


Third, set safeties to yellow at minimum in High Security Space.


Fourth ( and this is from personal experience) allow some some form of planetary interaction (Cert 2 or 3 maybe?) for Alphas. Either of those Certs limits their impact on the in-game while letting them explore this facet of the game.

Fifth, checking APIs for Account Type. This allows Corps and Alliances to recruit them if they want or tell them no and why. Also make this something that can be picked in Corp searches for Alpha-friendly Corps/Alliances.

Sixth, we need a new "This is EVE" trailer for the Alphas to entice them.


Anyways, this is my two cents on the matter. Let me know what you guys think.

The important question is, however, if you can submit the new extraction cycle into the PI colony or not without the skills if you have the colony already installed.

So what will beta clones be?

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So could I put those 5 accounts on my 4 PC's, 1 mac and 3 Linux - I do have access to a NOC so they could all be separate ip's - I forgot the 3 laptops

Shucks - I guess I could only have 54 free pi alts


As I mentioned you put limits on the total amount of skills level you can have for PI which would in fact limit your ability to create lvl 3/4 PI products. Perhaps limit the skill to level 1 or 2 - that will limit extractors and other bits.

If you want 54 single log in PI alts - you have 4 pcs so 4 log ins at a time to harvest limited amounts of t1 PI items i say go for it, you are in the absolute minority of players. I can only imagine the hell of having to do that, but hey if that is your thing then so be it.

I am more concerned about the 54 free t2 fitted catalysts and thrasher throwaways. So i would support having limits on the ability to gank in high sec ie: your security can only be set to green.

CCP has to balance giving people a 'playable' experience and letting people try different things so that they want to play more and expand their personal empire with addons and subscriptions.

Oh I agree on the Gnosis, it's the key to Alphas running level 3, and possible level 4 missions, but it is as you hint a limited item... The Alpha Cruiser performance is low enough imo with only a few exceptions, if you want to tone down Alphas more I'd rather see Cruisers gone and beef up their Frig/Dessy skills instead, which would also kill Gnosis skills too.

I don't have an answer with the PI debate, it is a touchy subject which I'm sure will get hammered out by the end of the year at the latest, as for the epithal thats not something Alphas can use iirc.